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Cartoon: WAR IN PALESTINE (medium) by ismail dogan tagged palestine
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HollersenK
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Ich halte die Zeichnung für an der Grenze zum Anti-Semitismus, auch wenn noch so viele Kommentare hier das gerne wegreden wollen!

HollersenK, 2 weeks ago  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
Peter Russel
Member
menekse wrote:
Do not use children as a pretext! There is much more dangerous views and conditions than trues of life for children in the internet.

you know that this is not about this cartoon but about a photo of a mutilated child ismail uploaded as a comment? If you cannot accept that argument (which I think is sad) can you at least understand that I personally don't want to see pictures like that one on a cartoon page? Please don"t tell me that I just "don"t want to see the truth about what Israelis are doing to the Palestinian people". I do watch news.. even in mainstream media there is enough to get an idea about the horrors of the Israeli attacks. My point is that uploading such a photo does nothing to further your or Ismail's point about the Palestine conflict. It just makes me puke, as any photo of mutilated bodies would. I am sure I could dig up a really gory photo of the victims of Palestinian bombs. What would that prove to you apart from the fact that violence is not a good thing (which I presume you know already)?

Peter Russel, on October 24, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
menekse cam
Editor
Do not use children as a pretext! There is much more dangerous views and conditions than trues of life for children in the internet.

menekse cam, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
Peter Russel
Member
OK, I give it another try.. I still hope that we can end this in some kind of agreement.
Maybe I made a mistake when I reported Ismail's post before he had a chance to remove it himself. Telling on people is probably not the best way to make them see your point.
But I personally feel offended by people posting
pictures of dead bodies, mutilated children etc. I recognize that children are injured by Israeli bombs BUT I don't want to have to throw up because of a gruesome picture when I only want to follow a discussion I am interested in. PLUS: as I said - This is a place on the internet children can and will visit and could be traumatized by such pictures.
Menekse & Ismail - can you understand this position?
This has nothing to do with being a "volunteer lawyer of Israel". I want a discussion, and I want a calm discussion. So please... calm down. And discuss this.

Peter Russel, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
ismail dogan
Member
menekse wrote:
We also lived similar problems here 1 year ago. I see that something does not change much. Someone had deleted 10 works of BEN about Israel and Palestine who powers granted by toonpool. And He/she had attacked to many artists.

Now also some members intervene to the freedom of thought and drawing who is volunteer lawyer of Israel.

We are not anti-semitic, we against to massacre that israel made it and to mentality which support it.
And we would prefer to remain neutral of toonpool management. This is really so sad and trust jarring...


thank you for your support Menekse .. I totally agree with your thoughts..

ismail dogan, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
menekse cam
Editor
We also lived similar problems here 1 year ago. I see that something does not change much. Someone had deleted 10 works of BEN about Israel and Palestine who powers granted by toonpool. And He/she had attacked to many artists.

Now also some members intervene to the freedom of thought and drawing who is volunteer lawyer of Israel.

We are not anti-semitic, we against to massacre that israel made it and to mentality which support it.
And we would prefer to remain neutral of toonpool management. This is really so sad and trust jarring...

menekse cam, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
max
Staff
Dear Ismail, we had to deactivate your post due to the Terms of Use of toonpool.com. Please also read Part XI. of the Terms of Use.
We fully support any exchange of visual or textual opinion and the freedom of expression, but we must take the full responsibility in any legal actions against toonpool.com, so we are forced to check if the uploaded images and comments comply with our Terms of Use.

max, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
Peter Russel
Member
I reported your post (using the "report post" button), the administrators then decided to put it down. You have the same power.
Otherwise I am not really sure what you want to say. If I didn't answer your complaints pleas rephrase the question.

Peter Russel, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
ismail dogan
Member
Peter Russel wrote:
dear ismail: I do not manage this site. I voiced my complaints as a user and tried to argue calmy. Please try to do so as well. If it helps, I'll try to write in French.
Posting gory pictures has nothing to do with freedom, there must be some limits. Your cartoon, for example, has not been removed nor will it be. But you have to live with people complaining about the way you depict the conflict.
To accuse the managers of this site of being "pro-Jews" unfortunately implies that you have an anti-semitic background, which would make this discussion a bit uncomfortable.



you are the households in this site but but you have the option to delete comments that do not suit you? Who do you take then?

ismail dogan, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
Peter Russel
Member
dear ismail: I do not manage this site. I voiced my complaints as a user and tried to argue calmy. Please try to do so as well. If it helps, I'll try to write in French.
Posting gory pictures has nothing to do with freedom, there must be some limits. Your cartoon, for example, has not been removed nor will it be. But you have to live with people complaining about the way you depict the conflict.
To accuse the managers of this site of being "pro-Jews" unfortunately implies that you have an anti-semitic background, which would make this discussion a bit uncomfortable.

Peter Russel, on October 23, 2009  [report post]  [quote]  [reply]

 
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WAR IN PALESTINE


ismail dogan
by ismail dogan
uploaded on October 17, 2009
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